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Google buses have a new parking lot — the Valencia St. median

IRBNBBUSES

By Tim Redmond

I’ve seen the big bus shuttles stop on Valencia now and then, perhaps between runs, but now one section of the street has become  something of a Google Bus Parking lot. This morning I saw two of them clogging the center lane, idling, for quite a while; when I stopped to take pictures, one of the drivers saw me and quickly pulled away.

There are lots of parking control officers in the area. Nobody was citing the Google buses.

Tim Redmond
Tim Redmond has been a political and investigative reporter in San Francisco for more than 30 years. He spent much of that time as executive editor of the Bay Guardian. He is the founder of 48hills.
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102 COMMENTS

  1. I believe that corporate welfare is one of the many issues at play here. Google is a very large corporate welfare recipient in S.F. The resentment isn’t towards corporate success or individual success. The issue has more to do with Google not paying its fair share while continuing to wreak havoc in S.F. with its buses, etc.
    B. Brown

  2. Bottom line is that if a car was idled in the median like those buses are doing above, they’d rightfully get a ticket. Not sure how you continue to talk your way out of this illegality. The point people are making is as long as they look like and are trying to get special privileges, they’re going to get put on blast, despite the shuttle bus being preferred environmentally.

  3. I’m supportive of these shuttle buses because they reduce the number of cars on the road. But… that doesn’t mean they should be able to park wherever they want. The middle lane of Valencia is not a designated parking spot; ergo, they shouldn’t be parking there.

  4. no I can’t think of one, but then i don;t have a bus I need to park. This rant speaks to the other kinds of vehicles. Get real. This is what comes of Tech having it’s dick shoved firmly up the asses of SF via its bought and paid for politicians.

  5. Its the same as the churches that infuriatingly park on all sorts of streets, Dolores and Guerrero among them, while the city looks the other way. If you don’t have a lot for your vehicle (shuttle bus or car going to church) then don’t drive it or park it elsewhere, period. Don’t block the center lane.

    The center lane has a purpose. To turn. When Valencia Street was narrowed from four lanes to two to create that center lane and bike lanes, this was the deal.

    So don’t block it. Whether you’re en entitled jerk picking up take out at as some restaurant (I’ve seen this plenty of times on Valencia) or a Google bus idling (for what purpose, who knows?) don’t do it. Ever. It’s not your personal property.

    The purpose of traffic lanes in streets isn’t parking. For anyone. Ever.

    Go find a parking lot to sit in and wait for your run to start. That’s how Golden Gate Transit does it.

  6. Always wondered why the church going crowd gets to park on Valencia and Delores with impunity as well whe the rest of us get tagged big time???

  7. Funny, because over on Mission Local, I was accused of being some guy called Mike who is apparently also a known entity.

    As stated, I’ve never heard of your nemesis. I speak only my own truth and represent nobody. Do you really think my views are so rare that only one person can hold them?

    Anyway, you’ve obviously decided to believe what you want to, so go ahead. It’s really too bad that you’re obsessed with the actors rather than engaging the topic, however.

    And Sam isn’t my real name, in the same way that most here do not use real names – because of the fear of stalkers, which is what you are starting to feel like.

  8. SAM SINGER, Using your real first name, Sam, while denying that you’re Sam Singer of Sam Singer Associates REPLY:

    If you were feeling smug & comfortable, Sam, you would most likely choose hiding in plain sight because it’s so devilishly clever.

    However, it takes a certain kind of arrogance mixed with contempt for others to actually use your real name within your PR GAME on the blessed site of 48 Hills.

    Based on the condescending way you interact with folks on this blog, I would say using your real first name gives you a sociopathic thrill of sorts, like a full throttle smirk while blogging.

    You’ve been outed as a well paid mouthpiece for the man. Tell me it ain’t so, Sam.

    B. Brown

  9. With the dark windows, it’s hard to tell if these buses are full. If smaller buses would suffice, they could stay in their lanes, not get stuck at corners, etc.

  10. The only lawful way a legal vehicle can be banned from city streets is if that vehicle exceeds the size and weight limits for city streets. Since the shuttles do not exceed those limits, they have every right to use the city streets. While if the city lowered those limits, that would also exclude many other types of vehicles such as tour buses and larger trucks.

    In fact this debate has never been about whether the buses can use city streets, but only about where they should stop.

    Those who want to take BART can do so already, and there are also corporate shuttles from BART and CalTrain stations. They do not work well for many, however.

  11. BP, essentially what we have here are a class of people who cannot afford to live in an affluent, desirable, expensive city but feel entitled to do that anyway.

    They harbor an expectation that a property owner will permanently subsidize their housing costs so that they can afford what they cannot afford. And when an owner gets sick of providing welfare, and closes down their building, they look for someone to blame.

    In this case, bizarrely, they are trying to blame the people who eventually buy those homes as TICs. And that is bizarre because most of them are not tech workers at all or, if they are, may not necessarily ride a shuttle. Moreover many of those buyers are themselves former tenants.

    These folks who want what they cannot afford endlessly seek a class of people to blame, whether that is landlords, developers, bankers, speculators, tech workers and so on.

    They must do this because otherwise they would have to face the real truths – that they are responsible for their own destiny instead of relying on the kindness of strangers. And that the city’s rent laws ultimately do them no favors at all by suppressing supply and driving away providers of rental housing.

    And yeah, building some new homes wouldn’t hurt either.

  12. Please move the techie buses to shuttle between BART stations at Colma and their work destinations. Do not let them into the City.

  13. Pickles, as stated earlier, I am not aware of any cases of a tenant being evicted by someone who rides a bus to work.

    It sounds more like you have a generic dislike of successful people, and that does sound like envy unless you have a different explanation.

  14. Pickles, streets are public assets but they exist solely for the purpose of access and use by private vehicles, so I don’t think you will get very far with the argument that somehow private vehicles should not be using them. That’s 100% the purpose of streets!

    And these buses were not parked. That implies that the vehicle is abandoned for some period of time. In this case the driver was with the vehicle and in full control of the vehicle. So it was more like being stopped than being parked.

    If this bus was causing an obstruction (it did not appear to be doing so from the photo Tim took) then it could easily have moved. So I’m not sure I see a problem here, and I suspect it would not have been mentioned here had it been any other type of vehicle, which indicates significant bias.

  15. Sam, while some might thank you for so succinctly expressing the cluelessness that’s come to SF in this wave, I salute you for pointing out how deeply, deeply envious of your success people really are. And to think they all imagined it was just because people are being evicted from their homes by skyrocketing rents fueled by high-income commuters who shun public transportation. Those silly poor people.

  16. They’re a private commercial business, so let them figure it out – either pay the city for street parking, or pay someone to let them park on private land… just like everyone else does. But don’t just presume to take over public space that *we all* pay for with your commercial venture.

  17. (obvious exception to the “take homes away from no one”: those tech folks who have actually engaged in real estate speculation and Ellis Acted people. The number that have done so can be counted on my hands. The rest are just looking for whatever place to live they can get, like everyone else.)

  18. This is hardly anything new; yes, the new rich are always more hated than the old rich, who are better at working the system to their benefit in quieter ways. Tech people take homes away from no one; they pursue homes honestly, in the same way anyone else in SF might, and just happen to have more resources to do it than the average person.

    And the reason this creates contention is because none of you want to build new housing anywhere in SF, ever, under any circumstances – unless it comes with promises of so much affordability that it becomes impossible for any private entity to build it anyways. Because you’re all too good to share your city with anyone new, especially these snot-nosed punks with their STEM degrees and rent-paying jobs.

  19. “No one is opposing the shuttles because its riders are more well off”

    Please. This is directly contradicted by the comments right here on this post, in which multiple commenters admit what this is really all about: an effort to kick fellow SF residents that happen to have found good jobs in the tech industry out of the city, in the name of cheaper rent. Or perhaps kick them out of their jobs. Or both. Who do you think you’re fooling here?

  20. Rabbit, I am interested in what you do not like about white men. And how you define “too many”?

    Feel free to use racial and gender stereotypes at will to make your point.

  21. First you would have to define what this alleged problem is. People taking a bus to work? People being successful?

  22. It ain’t so, but you can choose to believe whatever makes you feel smug and comfortable.

    Hint: If I were engaged in subterfuge, I wouldn’t use my real name.

    Perhaps you should focus on the message rather than the messenger?

  23. Why do you want to drive out your neighbors and fellow city residents?

    Are you advocating some kind of apartheid, based on vocation?

    Public policy based on stereotypes, envy and resentment does not strike me as very life-affirming.

  24. What “rate of loss”? Houses do not vanish in San Francisco. Even old ratty buildings that would be demolished anywhere else persist here. Getting a demolition permit is near impossible unless the place is a safety hazard or it’s an illegal in-law.

    For every tenant who moves out, there’s another tenant who either rents the place or buys it as a TIC.

    Your dislike of people based on their choice of occupation or mode of commutation seems very intolerant.

  25. OK, I’m down. If this was on the ballot, and had teeth, I could vote for it. But it’s not on the table, so the troubles go on. (And if it was, would our new Libertarian residents vote for it?)

  26. The apartments apear when more people like you are inconvinienced. The convienience of these private shuttles makes people like you want to live in our low income neighborhoods. If it were gone, many of you would leave, and your apartments would magically reapear. Or at least we could slow down the rate of loss.

  27. It wasn’t a joke. Does a public relations firm resort to abusive language tactics when their cover is blown? Very professional. Impressive. — Nyuk. Nyuk. Nyuk.
    B. Brown

  28. I agree we need more housing (in all price ranges), but there is clearly an attitude of “I want to move here and too bad if it screws somebody else” among the newer arrivals. I think that fosters a lot of the resentment. The city is dynamic, it is always changing, but it is usually the worst off who get further squeezed out. I don’t know how to deal with that, but it is troubling.

    Neither can the city just gate itself off and not allow anyone else to come in.

    Communities down the peninsula are not helping matters. Mountain View keeps approving new multi-story office buildings but very little in new housing.

  29. I commute to Mountain View on transit (I don’t have a shuttle option). The daily delays on any or all of the three agencies (and resulting missed connections) are killing me. Some days, the delays turn into 60 or 90 minutes. I hate driving in traffic, so I put up with the transit hassles.

    I totally get why companies are running these buses. I could save a minimum of an hour a day (which could be used at the gym, for example) if I had a shuttle instead of using public transit. If you make everyone go to some remote place to catch their bus, they might as well just drive. (Caltrain is getting so crowded even in the “reverse” commute that some trains are standing room only so it cannot absorb everyone, anyway.)

    However, I own a house in SF (and have for a long time). Selling my house and moving means higher taxes and moving away from friends and neighbors I enjoy. I have several times found work closer to home, only to have my company acquired by another company in Mountain View/San Jose, etc. My husband’s job is here in SF and it is important for him to be close to work (I can work remotely but he cannot). What are we supposed to do?

  30. Sam, You are so very BUSted BUSted BUSted. No way you can be informed and NOT even heard of Sam Singer. Just doesn’t ring true. Oops, Sam. Your pants are on fire.
    B. Brown

  31. Sue, Me thinks you have ‘BUS’ted Sam Singer of Singer Associates Public Relations. You are brilliant. Thank you so very much. Suddenly all is clear!
    Gratefully yours, B. Brown

  32. Sam, Me thinks you’ve been ‘BUS’ted. You ARE Sam Singer of Singer Associates Public Relations. Tell me it ain’t so, Sam!
    B. Brown

  33. Sam, You did say that you ride the Google bus. Does this mean you’re a Google bus driver dedicated to parroting current economic theory, determined to teach everyone the evils of rent control per Econ 101?
    B. Brown

  34. but there really ARE way more rich white men on the street these days and way too many gigantic shuttle buses, and might I add, a lot of these newly minted millionaires running around the Mission are pretty rude and arrogant – small wonder no one likes them except for their fellow techies.

  35. Wow – your disdain for the under-achieving mid-salary clerk speaks volumes. It is already quite clear when you speak of envy and resentment of wealth that you think it is all about you. And clear that you think you are better than the people who are complaining that their homes and way of life have been disrupted. Other people who don’t have your money do not resent you for your success. They may take offense to the lack of empathy stemming from your narcissism. But they don’t really care about you. They care that there are seismic changes in this city that are sucking some of the quality out of their lives. San Francisco values have traditionally been more about creativity than money.

  36. Yes, affordable homes are being lost — as they have been since I moved to San Francisco in 1970. Back then they blamed the gays, now it’s the techies.

    So what was the solution then? Build more housing and better public transportation. Since once again the City has become the fashionable place to live, you and cohorts might try spending your time thinking about how to do that again instead of whining about shuttles and seeing too many white men on the street.

  37. The shuttle bus issue is just a symptom of a larger issue.

    When you have a city like San Francisco where everyone wants to live, how do you fairly decide who gets to live there? Just let the free market decide? Establish some kind of seniority or first come-first serve system? A lottery?

    The sensible, doable answer, which I gather is akin to the official policy of the city, is to build so much market rate condominium and rental housing that prices will decline into a semblance of affordability, and also at the same time build subsidized low-income condo and rental housing for those whose income will always be below the level of market affordability. This, I think, is close to the very successful programs in a number of European cities. It’s not easy, but it can be done.

    I understand how much pleasure you guys get at throwing cliches at each other, but I think you’d be better served to put more effort to implementing solutions.

  38. Sue, you haven’t made the case that shuttle buses are getting off tickets any more than any other class of road user. The fact that Tim saw one yesterday is anecdotal and he is hardly un unbiased source anyway.

    If you can show me some real numbers proving your case, or a DPT script granting immunity, then produce it. Otherwise I think this is a blatant case of confirmation bias i.e. you notice when a tech shuttle does something bad because you don’t like them and look out for such things. But when a cab or delivery truck or bike etc gets away with an infraction, you just don’t take notice.

    And if there is in fact no immunity for buses (and there seem to be for Muni buses but that’s another matter) then I’m afraid this just comes right back to you having other, less honorable reasons for disliking these buses.

  39. You might as well claim that any new, big employer located in downtown SF is having the same effect i.e. attracting well-paid people here who can then out-bid others for housing and, for that matter, anything else.

    There might be something to that but really what is the alternative? It is a problem that comes from success and I suspect the majority of US cities would love to have those problems.

    There is something a little perverse here when people complain about wealth, success and prosperity because it highlights perhaps their relative inability to achieve those same goals.

    But what do we do? Try and deter businesses, jobs and growth, all so that some under-achieving mid-salary clerk can hang onto his Bryant Street studio? Somewhere there I think the priorities are all wrong. We should be encouraging excellence and enterprise.

    Yes, success comes with a price and not everyone can afford it. But I really do not see trying to engineer failure as being better. It might help a lot of folks if they start to understand that being the global epicenter for the knowledge, social and sharing economies is going to make out city more affluent and expensive. And with that comes opportunities, if you are the type to seek them out.

    While if you want a cheaper home, there’s always Oakland.

  40. Like many other complex things, it is hard to draw a clear line between cause and effect. I have been a customer of Flax Art Supply for at least 25 years. Now Flax has to move to make way for a high rise construction of residences. It is safe to say that those being evicted from around town will not be able to afford the units. Tech people, but not techies alone, are the possible occupants. The presence of shuttles make it an attractive location for people who want to live in San Francisco like other places live in the suburbs.

  41. People in SF, to my knowledge, are not resentful of people in Pacific Heights, St. Francis Wood or whatever. Keep an open mind as to why people might be upset for some reason other than resentment. Pacific Heights does not take things away from people. The tech situation is taking things away from people in SF. Affordable homes are being lost. The tech buses are just making it easier for landlords to evict people because they know they can make a big profit when tech people move in. Having the tech buses helps facilitate the displacement. Without the shuttles, more silicon valley employees would live closer to their workplace.

  42. Sam, you seem to be stuck in your envy argument. You have not made any convincing argument in favor of shuttles getting preferential treatment, you just whine about being persecuted for being rich without offering any evidence that this is the case, just your gut feeling. People get away with parking infractions all the time, but there has never been an official city policy of allowing one segment of the population and only one segment of the population to do so, until now. Transit riders who board buses without paying are also taking cars off the street, yet SFMTA hires legions of Fare Inspectors to go after them. Would you give fare evaders the same privileges you want us to give shuttle riders?

  43. Super-shuttle vans are much smaller. They don’t generally block your views of other traffic coming your way. The tech buses are like tour buses -huge. There are limits in this city as to where tour buses can go. Never heard of anyone complain about Super-shuttle. Partly because it is available to ALL of us. If those going to take these huge shuttles took public transportation to a regional site, it would seem like they are integrated with the city instead of superimposed on it.

  44. Sue, I’m not saying shuttles should be immune from parking tickets or moving violations. I am saying that the opposition and hostility being expressed here goes much further than mere ire at the sight of someone getting off a ticket which, frankly, happens all the time everywhere.

    I cannot help but feel that the real issue here is that the people whining about the shuttles are poorer than the people taking them. And so they express envy in much the same way as someone might if they see someone in an expensive car, or taking a private plane, or wearing expensive jewelery, etc.

    Perhaps it is natural to be resentful when you see someone who has something that you do not. but expressing that isn’t very attractive or helpful. Tolerance includes tolerance of those who have more.

    I don’t know who Mr Singer is.

  45. If only one could get to Candlestick Park or the Cow Palace by public transit without stopping 80 times on the way there.

  46. @Sam: I asked essentially the same question. This, however, is where they go quiet because while there is indeed a correlation between the buses and the overcrowding city, what these idiots cannot answer is how stopping or crippling the commuter buses does anything to improve the state of housing:

    1. The buses stop running? Okay. I’ll start driving. Yeah, yeah, I saw the study that asserts that 40% of us would “move closer to work.” Let’s assume they’re right. I guess I’m part of the 60% then. That’s still a pretty big number. The end result is that I don’t give up my SF apartment. Now what?

    2. The buses report to Transbay instead of running routes and making stops? Great. I’ll go to Transbay. You’ve inconvenienced me a bit but it’s still better than driving 101 myself. I still won’t give up my SF apartment. Now what?

    Can one of you zealots please answer how either of these solutions gets you more housing or stops evictions? kthxbai.

  47. Sam, are you sure that your last name isn’t Singer, and that you’re not getting paid for trolling 48 Hills and websites like it in an attempt to change public perception of your clients? Just being Sam Singer wouldn’t make your logic wrong, though it is flawed. No one is opposing the shuttles because its riders are more well off, people are opposing shuttles because they private entities getting privileges at the public’s expense. They should be treated no differently than anyone else, and if they commit a parking violation, they should be ticketed the same amount as any other member of the public, that’s all. Shuttle riders are no better than anyone else; get over it, Sam.

  48. Okay, let’s just say you get your wish. I take the bus and I’d happily bike or take MUNI to Transbay. Now what? Do extra apartments magically appear? How the hell does this solve the very serious housing crisis we find on our hands? Tech bus hate has some pretty severe blinders on.

  49. Amy: I take the bus and I am most definitely not white. Do I still have permission to do so? To live in San Francisco? Oh, please, decider-of-all-things, please let me stay here?

  50. Amy, I’m still struggling to see why anyone is poor simply because I take a bus to work.

    Not everyone can achieve wealth, although America is better than most in that regard. But when those who fail to achieve that blame it on others who who have achieved success and prosperity, I smell envy.

  51. Sam, if you seriously believe that the American dream is still attainable today, you’re more out of touch than I thought. Maybe you don’t pay attention to how the other half live. Or maybe you just have no empathy. But the fact is, the idea of a meritocracy in America just doesn’t exist anymore. Income inequality is growing to levels not seen since the Gilded Age, and social mobility has stagnated. Most people born poor will stay poor, no matter how hard they try. And you seem like the kind of guy that thinks poor people are poor because they’re just too lazy to better themselves. Am I right?

  52. I’ve lived in San Francisco probably longer than you have and am not paid by anyone.

    I do feel sad when people appear to have nothing more serious to whine about than that I take a bus to work (or share my home via Airbnb, which I also do).

    Jeez, guys, there are a million more important issues going on in the world.

  53. Amy, are you seriously suggesting that white people are not a part of diversity? And in fact the number of “wealthy white men” in the Mission is trivial. If you really seek diversity, you’d want more.

    Brad, I use the word “envy” not to be rude but because I am at a loss why anyone else would care if I take a bus to work, except for the perception that I might make more money than them.

    But yes, I do think that people are responsible for their own success or failure. It’s that peculiar American idea of independance and self-determination. Or has that gone out of fashion in favor of a cradle-to-grave nanny state?

  54. Sam, your reference to “envy riddled” people was a little odd but you ‘jumped the shark’ with this rude, insensitive and wacky post blaming the problems created by SF’s economic boom on the “mistakes” and “failures” of anyone who questions current public policy.

    When you speak in this mean spirited way, most reasonable people stop listening to you.

  55. Sam, are you really Ed Lee disguising yourself as ‘Sam’. You are obviously out of touch with San Francisco and the effects these buses are having on our quality of life. Move to Mountain View…

  56. Jonathan,
    Thanks for the photo—and especially for capturing the placard. This makes it very easy for us to follow up with the appropriate provider (Compass). I will contact them and alert PCOs to this issue. No, this is not legal and citations are being issued for such activity.
    Carli

    _____________________________
    Carli Paine
    TDM Manager
    Sustainable Streets Division

  57. I love diversity Sam! But the only “diversity” these buses encourage are wealthy, white men. San Francisco is starting to look like one big J Crew ad.

  58. They have to be convenient or people wouldn’t use them. And if people don’t use them, they’d drive, causing much more congestion.

    I’m sure the system can be honed and improved, but thousands of your neighbors take these shuttles and it makes a big difference to their lives.

    Are you sure your real objection isn’t something a little more personal?

  59. Amy, is that the world-famous San Francisco tolerance and respect for diversity that I’ve heard so much about?

    What would it feel like for you to take personal responsibility for your own failures and mistakes rather than try and conveniently stereotype and scapegoat a class of people to blame instead?

    Painful? Uncomfortable? Sad?

  60. Liz, I’ve seen that study but it doesn’t actually demonstrate a provable link between shuttles and evictions.

    Can anyone post a list of people who tide tech shuttles to work AND who Ellis’ed or otherwise evicted tenants?

    The only case i know of is Halprin but I’ve no evidence that he rides a shuttle.

  61. That defeats the entire purpose of a shuttle. It would then just be a regular bus.

    When you call for an airport shuttle, you don’t expect to be told to shlep all the way to TransBay. Might as well go to CalTrain or BART in that case.

    The end result would simply be that most folks would drive. The current program and pilot seems fair.

  62. “envy-riddled”??? It’s cute that you people think we are envious. It’s not envy we are feeling, it’s anger. We just want you to get out of San Francisco and go live in the place you work. Problem solved. No more ridiculous, giant commuter buses clogging up our streets.

  63. I would like them to park at the Transbay terminal or some regional spot. They can take public transportation to it just like people take public transportation to Caltrains. Caltrains does not have trains running all around town picking up its passengers.

  64. EIRs are not necessary if a project doesn’t receive state or federal funds. Each bus takes 50+ cars off the road that would have made a 70 mile round trip commute, so it probably is not the best strategy if your goal is banning them on environmental grounds.

  65. I think its great that the buses take cars off the free way commute, I just don’t understand why the users can’t for example take a city bus or bike whatever closer to the freeway. Why not have these companies set up a transit center/bus station on the edge of town near the freeway. That would keep the buses from clogging up the city traffic and causing. It doesn’t seem like they all need to to be going to every neighborhood. Have them pick up/drop off at a central station. http://io9.com/5976477/the-hidden-bus-routes-in-san-francisco-that-are-only-for-techno-elites

  66. the buses could wait at parking lots near Candlestick Park or Cow Palace, the techies could take public transit down there and get their rides down to Silicon Valley. this would prevent all the problems the massive buses cause while cruising all over SF picking up and dropping off their pampered passengers.

  67. Sam, first you need to clarify who exactly this group of “envy-riddled agitators” includes.

  68. My comment was supposed to be under the one from Sa that says the busses replace 40-50 cars, but it appeared as a separate post.

  69. Maybe some of those people would have taken public transit and NOT driven their cars – public transit can use the money.

  70. There is an idling law. You cannot leave your vehicle with the engine running and the parking brake not engaged. Were these drivers with their vehicles? Tim said they were.

    Due to traffic congestion, vehicles often have to idle.

  71. I’m not aware of any link between those people and commuter shuttles. Can you provide clear evidence that a bus evicted them?

  72. Why do people use the argument that they are being greener by using these tech busses? Do you not realize that most every service worker, from the people that clean your streets to those that clean your dishes, now has to commute here from as far away as Vallejo, Antioch and Stockton? Don’t kid yourself that your hip, urban life is carbon neutral kids!

  73. Hi Sam, yes it does seem SFMTA is looking the other way, enforcing the law against some people, while choosing not to enforce against others. But I have to ask you, who are the envy riddled agitators? Are you referring to people like Mary, that 98 year old lady who was being evicted by Urban Greed, or the school teacher Google’s Jack Halprin is evicting? Perhaps you mean the Vietnamese families and children being kicked out of their homes, because OnCare Childcare CEO Ty Dureckas decided to invest in a low income section 8 little Saigon apartment building, and kick the Vietnamese families with small kids out so he could rent it for thousands of dollars more? Not that he needed the money, he is already very well off. Maybe you mean the Domestic Violence Consortium’s Executive Director? Or any one of thousands of other residents whose housing is at grave risk. These people don’t have billions of dollars, but they do have their voice, and the right to organize and attempt to participate in a democratic society. Their voices need to be heard. As for me, I am incredibly lucky to have a great job, a living wage, and to own my own home, and I want to give back and encourage and support those who are struggling to keep their homes and jobs in San Francisco.

  74. Jonathan, did it every occur to you that the city might not consider it a high enforcement priority to ticket buses that are taking people to work in the same way that they might other vehicles?

    Should we ticket Muni buses every time they technically transgress some regulation? Because I can assure you that I see that all the time.

    If anything, the fact that a small minority of envy-riddled agitators wants to single out bus commuters in this way would cause me to look the other way if I were in DPT.

    Yeah, some people have a better deal than you. Deal with it.

  75. Yes, it’s really important that SF residents should have a more difficult commute. That’s a real worthy cause you got there.

  76. I’ve seen the City ticket and tow cars parked in the center lane on Valencia street, but they do in fact ignore the tech buses. Its just another example of a tale of two cities. I happened to photograph a google bus and its license plate yesterday, and emailed Carli Paine, but no reply this time. Usually she replies right away and says she will contact the bus company.

  77. The more interesting EIR would be on the effect of the 40-50 cars each shuttle replaces. You might as well ask for an EIR on a muni bus.

    The buses obviously start off empty before they pick up.

  78. Has there been an Environmental Impact study on these buses? I live on Valencia and I see them driving down the street empty

  79. Can you identify such a lot near Valencia? I cannot think of one.

    And anyway we are only talking about a few minutes here. I often see them waiting on Haight Street as well but, because of daily street cleaning there, there is always plenty of space for the shuttles to wait.

    I also see many, many other vehicles using the center lane on Valencia. Funny how Tim picked just this one type of vehicle for his rant huh?

  80. A parking space / lot paid for by the company that leases them ( i.e. Google) would be an appropriate place.

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