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Mayor’s District 3 appointment shows he’s fully on the side of the developers and big money

Julie Christensen at her design studio. Photo from surfacework.com
Julie Christensen at her design studio. Photo from surfacework.com

By Tim Redmond

JANUARY 7, 2014 – Well, now at least we know where the mayor stands. No more consensus or compromise: The appointment of Julie Christensen to the D3 supervisor slot was a major slap in the face to Ed Lee’s traditional constituency and to the people who helped him get elected.

It shows who is calling the shots now at City Hall – Ron Conway and the tech plutocrats are fully in control.

And we know that there will be a real, serious, hard-fought contest for that district this fall, with former Sup. Aaron Peskin likely challenging Christensen for his old seat.

The appointment set off shockwaves not just in Chinatown – where the folks at the Chinatown Community Development Center, Rose Pak, and just about every other community leader I know supported Planning Commission President Cindy Wu – but also in North Beach, where Christensen supposedly has her base.

“We were actively supporting Cindy Wu and we are very disappointed,” Kathleen Dooley, president of the North Beach Merchants Association, told me.

“I’m pretty shellshocked,” said Vedica Puri, president of the Telegraph Hill Dwellers. “It’s a very surprising appointment.”

Jon Golinger, who has been active in district politics and has considered running for that seat, was less surprised. “It’s a sign that big developers and the people allied with them are confident they can impose their will on the city,” he said. “The mayor has chosen the most reliable vote for their agenda.”

Golinger said Christensen, who runs a product design firm in Dogpatch, “is smart and a hard worker.”

I called her at her Mariposa Street office today, but haven’t heard back. I imagine she’s getting a lot of calls.

Peskin told me a lot of people have contacted him to suggest he run in November, when, as a new appointment, Christensen will have to face the voters. Golinger is fine with that: “If he runs, he will have my full support.”

So the mayor has created what could be a very odd alliance. Among Lee’s Chinatown supporters, it was something of an article of faith that if David Chiu won the Assembly race, the mayor would appoint Wu. She moved into the district a year ago. Some Wu allies even helped get Chiu elected, with the assumption that the CCDC community planner would get the nod.

Now Rose Pak (who really hates being disrespected) could wind up supporting Peskin (who has fought with her over development issues like 8 Washington) for supervisor. The mayor could wind up with an ally for one year – and then a strong opponent for the rest of his term.

Christensen will be sworn in tomorrow, right as the board will be electing a new president – and that position is now almost certain to go to an ally of the mayor.

So he’ll get the short-term win – but in the long term, he’s done himself serious political damage and demonstrated that he’s gone from being a politician with a community base to one fully beholden to the big money in town.

 

Tim Redmond
Tim Redmond has been a political and investigative reporter in San Francisco for more than 30 years. He spent much of that time as executive editor of the Bay Guardian. He is the founder of 48hills.
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  31. Rose Pak took the mike at her event for Ed Lee’s re-election last night and thoroughly disrespected the mayor by slamming his appointment to D3 — and promising to defeat her when she runs — RP has finally jumped the shark – fin soup…don’t let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya!

  32. Well gosh, you throw out things like that and then say “let this subject lie.” C’mon now, that’s a bit disingenuous, wouldn’t you say?

    “So Greg, you’ve been accused of being an SHJ?”
    Me? I was never talking about myself here. Just accusations in general I see made by some (usually right-wing Jews) against other Jews, over mere political disagreements. I just said that’s why I take accusations of anti-Semitism (or being a self-hating Jew when the victim of the smear is Jewish) with a grain of salt. I didn’t actually call the accusations themselves anti-Semitic, although now that you mentioned it, in a sense they are.

    “…Israel, which I am 200% for…”
    Yeah I figured as much.

    “I do feel the left in SF is completely anti-Jewish, and that DOES include many of the SHJ’s who seem to hate other Jews with a passion.”
    Wow, you and I must reside on different planets, because I don’t see that at all, let alone “completely.” Perhaps I’m not as sensitive to it, because I’m not Jewish, but I don’t think I can recall a single person in the SF left who ever expressed anti-Semitic statements. (Well ok, with the exception of h. brown, but that most people on the left couldn’t stand him). I don’t know anyone on the left who “hates Jews with a passion,” Jewish or not themselves. Such statements just strike me as coming out of left field, and I think it does have to do with Zionism.

    What I do see all the time is people on the right making accusations of anti-Semitism and “self-hating Jewishness” against anyone who disagrees with them on Israel. And incidentally, I think the latter term is absurd on its face. It’s an absurd term made up by Zionists to silence debate. Anyone who disagrees with them is an anti-Semite. The problem they have is that too many Jews disagree with them, and it’s patently absurd to call a Jew an anti-Semite, so they made up this equally ridiculous term to silence their Jewish critics.

    Meanwhile, if there are vestiges of real anti-semitic discourse out there (“Jews are corrupt, money-grubbing, etc.”)… that kind of stuff you hear only from the right.

    That’s what really puts me off to this visceral hatred of Aaron Peskin I hear from the right. Peskin’s progressivism doesn’t explain it. You didn’t see that kind of hatred directed toward other progressives like Eric Mar or Jake McGoldrick or even Matt Gonzalez. Actually Peskin is pretty moderate, along the lines of Jane Kim or Sophie Maxwell. Corruption? Who are we kidding? The administrations of Willie Brown, Gavin Newsom and right through Ed Lee are cesspools of corruption, and yet the right, including yourself, never once admits that. It would be one thing if you were an equal opportunity anti-corruption advocate. But it sort of rings hollow when you say nothing about the cesspool that is City Hall, but then skewer Peskin because maybe he got a good deal on a house at some point? WTF???

    I’m always wary about hurling accusations of anti-Semitism, but when I hear right-wingers go berserk over Aaron Peskin (while simultaneously ignoring the elephant in Room 200, and that point is crucial, I can’t emphasize it enough), and I question why, and they answer that “it’s because he’s a corrupt, money-grubbing _blank_” they may never come right out and say “JEW!!!” but you know, they’re not doing themselves any favors, because people can fill in the blanks.

    “Right now the left on social media is blaming Mossad for the Paris attack. It was on Wikileaks and on IBT both blaming Jews for the attacks and of course the LW’s favorite – Al Jazeera.”

    As for this… there are so many things wrong with this statement that I don’t know where to begin. You can’t blame “The Left” for everything written by someone on facebook. However, The Right is blaming Islam and all Muslims for this terrible attack, and not just a few commentators on social media. I wouldn’t classify Wikileaks or Al-Jazeera as left-wing. Wikileaks is a whistleblower site. If transparency is “left-wing,” that doesn’t speak well about the right wing. Assange, just so you know, is a libertarian capitalist. On economic issues, he agrees with Sam, but without the authoritarianism. Al-Jazeera has some of the most balanced reporting you’ll find in the media. Or at least had. I rarely read it since they dumbed it down a bit for American audiences, but their articles show a standard of journalism that you won’t find in the US. IBT? Do you mean International Business Times? You consider that left wing? Seriously? Are you talking about another IBT that I’m missing, because you can’t possibly consider International Business Times “left wing.”

    In any case, I never did find what you’re talking about when I did a google search. Apparently one article advancing the theory of a Mossad false flag in Paris did exist, but the publication took it down. Interesting that those who claim to advocate free speech are hell-bent on making sure that some forms of free speech are not heard. It’s hard to determine whether something is anti-Semitic or not without seeing the post. This brings up a couple of interesting questions. Is the mere suggestion that the Mossad capable of a false flag operation not only wrong, but now anti-Semitic as well? Or was there something more to it than that? I guess we’ll never know. And what does it say about our real commitment to free speech when we rub out discourse like that, but then say that defamatory Islamophobic cartoons are A-Ok?

  33. I’m trying to understand and not challenging you at all, so please lower your defense shields. Can you give examples or otherwise provide insight to the anti-Semitism in SF?

    And could you be confusing anti-Semitism with a general anti-religion attitude reflected in many in SF?

  34. So Greg, you’ve been accused of being an SHJ? That is not anti-semetism or even what I’m talking about when I talk about anti-Jewish attitudes in this city.

    But apparently you feel it is, but that is not. That is Jews fighting each other over Israel, which I am 200% for and I don’t feel we should get into that debate here.

    No, that’s not what I was talking about when I was talking about anti-Jewish behavior and feelings of SF.

    I do feel the left in SF is completely anti-Jewish, and that DOES include many of the SHJ’s who seem to hate other Jews with a passion. It is really odd but there it is, but in general, imho, the left is completely anti-Jewish.

    Right now the left on social media is blaming Mossad for the Paris attack. It was on Wikileaks and on IBT both blaming Jews for the attacks and of course the LW’s favorite – Al Jazeera.

    But let us not get off the regular subject at hand which is SF in general and let this subject lie. Please.

  35. Nobody posts at Mission Local any more. It’s dead. Which is a shame because it is actually trying to become self-funded and independent, and needs all the traffic it can get.

  36. Oh boo hoo hoo, Sam. You’re such a crybaby troll. Why don’t you just come out and say it: I’m a real estate developer and I like money. If you don’t like that bugger off. It’s my raison d’etre and anyone critical of that is trying to suppress my right of free speech. You’re such a phony.

  37. I post on topic but then people like you attack me personally and ignore the topic. By that definition you are the troll here, not I.

    You only claim I am “destroying” this space because you see that I construct effective arguments that cannot be countered. If you can suppress my input, you think you might get away with your arguments.

    I think it is tragic that you feel your arguments are so frail and fragile that you find it necessary to advocate censorship. And sadly ironic on the day after lives were taken in Paris by those who share your hate for freedom of speech.

    Finally I only discovered who you are by accident, but it is helpful when countering your arguments to understand your personal bias and conflict of interest. Such as when discovering that you are a healthcare worker helped me undermine your self-serving support of healthcare workers. Or how your anti-Americanism is informed by the fact that you were born and raised in another nation.

    Context matters.

  38. Actually I never bring up the topic of my identity. You do. It’s an obsession. For some reason it pains you that you cannot figure out who I am.

    I do vocally side with those who want to ban you. Because I love this space, and you’re destroying it by trolling. SImple as that.

  39. 4thGen,
    Ironic that you defend yourself against the possibility of anti-semitism by claiming that you’re Jewish, but then in the next breath state that you’ve seen Jewish people engage in anti-semitism. Just an ironic juxtaposition there.

    Personally, I’m wary of accusations of anti-semitism (or being a “self-hating Jew”), because these days they tend to be leveled at people who criticize Israel and ZIonism. That’s not anti-semitism, but it’s often labeled as such by those who wish to shut down debate. If you separate that out, I see very little real anti-semitism out there.

    However, the portrayal of Jews as greedy and corrupt *does* lean toward that traditional, real anti-semitic discourse. This is not to say that a Jew cannot be “super corrupt,” nor should they be shielded from scrutiny just because they’re Jewish. However, people on the right do seem to have a special revulsion -it’s visceral -toward Aaron Peskin. The defense that he’s corrupt doesn’t do it for me. FIrst of all, I see no evidence that he is. But regardless, there are people in politics who are clearly and obviously much more corrupt. Willie Brown is corrupt to the core. Nancy Pelosi got filthy rich off investments in war, at the same time she controlled legislation that affected her investments. So when someone is out there casting aspersions about Peskin, but ignoring some very serious massive corruption throughout the political system, don’t you think the optics of that looks rather bad?

  40. Well Rose Pak HATES David Chiu. I forgot what started it, but as Tim noted in the article, she REALLY hates to be disrespected. Add to that she’s vindictive as all get out. I remember she had a grudge against another supervisor some years back and she refused to let him get on the big stage with the rest of the politicos for the Chinese New Year’s Parade.

    My guess is while Pak wanted Wu in Chiu’s seat, she would rather have seen him lose to Campos.

  41. Echo chamber? You’re not confident that your arguments can stand on their own merits without an assist from Sam, 4thGen?

  42. Greg, if you weren’t concerned then you would not keep bringing up the topic, and seeking to censor free speech here.

    You would simply ignore it. Yet you cannot.

  43. Enough is enough Tim at times publishes informative articles, most of the comment section is taken up with trash.
    I am going to start a petition that requires all posters to have their IP address visible.
    Why be anonymous, back up your comments with your name.
    This will eliminate all the sick fucks that hide behind animosity.

  44. I have concerns with both Christensen or Wu. But I’m voicing concern about Christensen as she was selected by the mayor. I’m not sure that Tim is supporting Wu. It seems to me that he is reporting about the macro-level politics surrounding the appointment. Pak out (a good thing), Conway in (worse than Pak, so a bad thing). My only solace in this is that there’s no way that Conway will have the lasting power that Pak had. No, he doesn’t have a popular constituency like Pak does and he and his investors are going to be bruised in 2015 with anti-sharing-economy laws popping-up around the world.

    I do hope that Christensen will be a good supervisor and reflect the will of her constituents because she seems to be a bundle of energy and hopefully will get things done. And I’ve heard good things about her.

    But if she supports the mayor and developers over district 3 residents, I can easily envision the campaign signs for the next election:

    *Christensen supported by AirBnB venture capitalists
    *Christensen wants to hand the waterfront over to developers
    *Christensen supports the removal of height limits on the waterfront
    *Christensen supports big developers over small businesses

    The anti-Christensen campaign will focus on Lee and Conway. And they will win.

  45. The funny thing is that I had a number of discussions with Lydia at ML. I told her that if she introduced the measures she was contemplating that the comments section would dry up to nothing.

    She implemented them anyway and now nobody bothers commenting there. I guess she secretly didn’t really like comments anyway. She’s an old-school journalist in her sixties, and learned her craft when newspapers were one-way flows of information with no feedback. Seems she never really fully adapted to the interactive nature of the internet.

    We are all journalists now, and that scares some.

  46. I’m going to reply to both Greg and Barry here. I am Jewish as well as biracial. So yes I do know about Jews and MY FAMILY being discriminated against here. In fact, I am “mostly” Jewish. So while saying that Jews are “not” in fact discriminated here or the bottom of the s-pile (Barry), I would say you’re wrong.

    And Greg, honestly I’m just disappointed in you that you would cast aspersions because I cast aspersions on Peskin. I cast aspersions on Peskin because he seemed super corrupt to me.

    Again the hatred against Jews is not OVERT like we think, it’s underhanded, and imho, some of my own people/tribe (Jews) participated in the hate. People I worked for as a matter of fact, but that is here nor there, and yes they were super hateful to other Jews. Blatant. Awful.

  47. @Sam, assess away, but keep your assessments about the person – and not the discussion – to yourself.

  48. Hi
    I have a question for you all. I’m new to SF politics, but there’s something about the political machinations as described here and in other news outlets that I don’t understand.

    If Cindy Wu had been anointed as the chosen inheritor of a BOS, why did she move to D3 while her biggest support Rose Pak was actively trying to get David Campos elected in D9? If Rose Pak was really set on trying to secure the D3 seat for Cindy Wu, shouldn’t she have endorsed David Chiu?

    It just seems strange to encourage someone to move to a district with the thought that that person could inherit that BOS seat (if vacated), while endorsing the candidate in the other district. It seems like moving Cindy Wu to D3 and endorsing David Campos are at cross purposes with each other.

    Did Cindy Wu sign two leases, one in D3 and one in D9? Was there another candidate-in-waiting in D9 that we don’t know about?

  49. @They don’t know how to handle someone who is smart, educated and on-topic.

    Who are you talking about?

  50. Barry, I always maintain a civil demeanor here, and would never say another person had “shit for brains”. Not my style.

    In fact, it upsets those who seek to suppress free speech here that I am civil and articulate. They don’t know how to handle someone who is smart, educated and on-topic. Those who wish to kill free speech here would much prefer I resorted to hate speech, and make it easy for them.

  51. Wrong, Greg, I was careful to reveal information that was meaningful to you but would not enable another to discover your identity via a search engine.

    I was actually taking steps to preserve your real identity. But keep it up and I might change my mind on that.

  52. Greg, you misread. I said I did NOT use TOR, not that I did, but you read what you wanted to read.

    Ironically, TOR is used by various left-wing groups who want to evade scrutiny, and let here you are criticizing that.

    I stand by my identification of you, which wouldn’t matter except that you keep denying it way too much, and it amuses me to watch you squirm.

    You’re the one who is obsessed with me, hence your endless appeals to Tim to introduce censorship here, as if the Paris attack didn’t show the evil of those who attack free speech.

  53. You weren’t tactful at all. You published details. It’s just that they turned out to be someone else’s details.

  54. Greg, I cannot cite your claims of a Chinese conspiracy because SFBG removed all their comments. But others commented on it at the time and subsequently.

    You certainly play at least as many cards as anyone else here, and routinely stereotype classes of people based on race, religion, occupation and fiscal status for the purpose of promoting hate, in the long tradition of socialist class warfare.

    So at least be man enough to take the criticism that rightfully goes along with that,

  55. You didn’t discover it. You thought you did but you were thankfully off the mark. Your efforts revealed more about what a creep you are than they did about me.

    Anyway, I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy. I see nothing wrong with privacy, but you’re always saying how comfortable you are with the lack of privacy. Ironic then, that you guard yours so carefully. What are you hiding, troll? Are you afraid that your employer will be revealed?

  56. Barry, so you reject divisive tribal identity politics but consider it’s important that we have a gay mayor?

  57. This is exactly what I’m talking about. Our resident troll comes out on cue to bring up old lies, when he knows full well that no one ever said anything of the sort. Anytime someone criticizes Ed Lee, his attack trolls pull out the race card and accuse people of being anti-Chinese. Ugly identity politics.

    And then, you have the delicious irony of fellow right-winger 4thGen saying that the Jews are always under attack in one breath, while in the next saying that Peskin’s money is automatically suspect. And it’s not the first time. Others, like Sam the Troll, have said the exact same thing without presenting a shred of evidence. Why? Because he’s a Jew? Why is Peskin(who by all accounts is at best modestly wealthy) suspect, while Conway’s millions aren’t? Or for that matter Nancy Pelosi, who became the wealthiest member of congress while in office? Do I detect some anti-Semitism here?

  58. In response to Sam, the Spam Man: Yes, you are right, I went overboard with the derogatory comment. Guilty, but with an explanation. Your influence rubbed off on me and my mistake was in responding to you at all. I won’t make that mistake again.

  59. You’ve pretty much got it right 4th Gen SFer, although I think you may have gone a little overboard in this comment. Jews are the most hated minority in SF? Not in my experience, and I think I’d pick up on that. being Jewish. But in general you are correct, we have a panoply of mafias and they are all based on an unspoken rejection of “the other”. It’s old-style politics at its worst and I think it’s time is almost done now in the 21st century. Let’s drive a stake through the heart of bossism and machine politics in SF this year by defeating Ed Lee. Make him a one term mayor, as he so richly deserves to be, by electing a gay progressive leader with a solid record of accomplishment for all the people of San Francisco—Tom Ammiano. RUN TOM RUN—SAVE SF.

  60. TBF, racism is always part of SF’s political scene, but not in the usual way. Not in the way that one thinks of the South, where people there are actually FRANK and REAL about their true feelings, yet have no problem living next door to POC, or going to schools with POC.

    Unlike SF. Where it is “every tribe unto itself” and it’s all UNSTATED & UNSAID, but, we used to call it “mafias”, there’s the Latino Mafia, the Asian Mafia, the Irish Mafia, funnily enough, not so much the Black Mafia.

    But there are people in SF in SF’s gov’t, in SF’s offices that are ONLY INTO their people, alone. And hate everyone else.

    And of course, as usual, Jews are at the bottom of the scale, because everyone hates them.

    And the whole thing is SICKENING to me. Sickening, this is real racism in SF, REAL. And it’s unfair, and it’s horrible but we’re NOT the ones tainted, no we taint the Southern USA, when we are WORSE. We really are, despite our flowery words. We are the worst racists, possibly in the USA.

    Sorry for ranting, but I’ve been meaning to say this for a long long time. SF is the worst racist city and the SFBA is the worst racist area in the USA.

  61. LOL, Russo, nobody posts on ML any more because they have made it so ponderous to post there. They cured the alleged disease by killing the patient, and threw the baby out with the bathwater.

    I’d stopped posting there before they required registration.

    Thanks again for telling me there about this site, by the way.

  62. Actually, there is. Spam was such a nuisance on the Mission Local blog–trolling with nearly identical messages dozens of times over–that the moderator instituted a two-comment limit. When Spam proved incapable of respecting even that, the blog required commenters to register with their real names for the public to see. That’s pretty extreme for a blog these days, but it has apparently worked. Unless I’ve overlooked them them, I haven’t seen lonely ol’ Spam’s comments since.

  63. Barry, you are not in a position to criticize my posts when you make comments about others like them having “shit for brains”.

  64. Peskin doesn’t have any power and hasn’t done anything since leaving office. He is more an object of pity than fear.

  65. Ironic considering that after the last mayoral election, Greg made accusations of there being a Chinese conspiracy to commit voter fraud.

    He was rightly called out for his racism at the time on SFBG, and perhaps it was just his disappointment talking. But progressives can be as racist as anyone in this town. Indeed, endlessly pandering to some races while bitching about whites is classic racist behavior.

  66. 4th Gen, yes, once Tim left SFBG the ones who were left really did not share Tim’s commitment to open debate, diverse viewpoints and free speech.

    They played lip service to it, but it was clear that they were not comfortable defending themselves against criticism. They simply lacked the conviction and the arguments.

    So it was perhaps significant that one of their last acts was to shut down the comments totally, although that was at least partly because they also lacked the technical nous to stop spam.

    I encourage Tim to continue the fight for free speech, in honor of those lost in Paris yesterday.

  67. Thanks, 4th Gen. Greg has gotten increasingly obsessed with me since I discovered who he is IRL, even though I have tactfully declined to publicize his details.

    It seems odd that he doesn’t give up on that even on a day when 12 people died in Paris because they practiced free speech.

    I don’t know why my arguments scare Greg so much. He cannot refute them, I know, but he could certainly ignore them.

    He’s in in some ways the most dangerous type of extremist, because he genuinely believes that silencing others is the key to him imposing his will. Those in Paris seen the dangers of that most starkly.

  68. Being for or against 8-Wash is not the primary factor in nominating a new supervisor. In fact, in the grand scheme of things, it is trivial.

  69. That could just mean that she has an open mind.

    Nobody would say that about Campos.

    We need more independent thinkers and fewer ideological puppets.

  70. If you click on a link here, then whoever hosts that site can see your IP address. At least one poster here has admitted to setting a trap like that.

    So it makes sense to proxy if you are going to click on a link.

    You are the one who has gone to great lengths to deny your real identity when I discovered it.

  71. Sam, save your crocodile tears, feeling for me, really you do. I generally skip over your posts because you have a one-track mind but this one caught my eye. State your views all you want, it’s a democracy (sort of), but spare me your emotional, personal trollish comments.

  72. This is for Greg (not a reply to 4th Gen SFer, which is how fb is labelling all my comments here, a glitch): Yes it is racist and divisive and none of us likes it, but it would be closing your mind to think that racism does not play a part in politics SF 2015. It is so obvious that I think Lee might have avoided going with Wu for that reason in part. The man has no principles.

  73. Reply to Dave (fb is screwing up the comments, only wants me to reply to 4th Gen SFer): Ed Lee ROCKS? You mean Ed Lee has rocks in his head, I think. I could go further. Ed Lee has shit for brains.

  74. Your post has me thinking, how DID Peskin get all his money? I recall that is where the scandals are, as usual (follow-the-money)…..Petrelis will remember. Hopefully.

  75. It would be an echo chamber without Sam. In the last days of the SFBG they had great comments. Then they shut comments down. I love comment sectionis anywhere btw, they’re where we find stuff out. But too many on the left are all for shutting down free speech these days, there’s no comments allowed on the SacBee for instance (or there wasn’t), people are getting banned from Hoodline and from SFist, and other sites. It’s crazy! SFGate used to have the Stasi watching out over comments there and everyone on the right was eliminated for a while (forgot the guy’s name but it was VLAD something, who knows where that anti-comment editor is now), etc. Comments ARE democracy imho. Yahoo otoh, because they’re broke have…everyones comments. I prefer more intelligent conversations myself.

  76. Not blubbering, but can Peskin even get elected in this environment? Petrelis can probably remember all the scandals involved with Peskin, as I recall there were MANY regarding money and the property he owns.

    The last thing I read is that tech is 8% of the voters of SF, but it’s going higher daily, and what if there’s more tech moving into NB now? NB is a fantastic neighborhood.

  77. I didn’t like her then Greg. I thought she had way too much influence. I only “like” Lee because to me, he’s better than the alternative. But I think we can both agree that Pak’s power being diminished is actually a GREAT thing for SF!

  78. TOR, huh? Aren’t you the one who said if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear (from government surveillance)? It’s ironic that you’re using TOR to shield your identity. What are you hiding, “Sam?”

  79. I think you can safely say she supported 8 Wash. If she didn’t support it, then she’d say so, given how terribly it did.

  80. Someone here noted that right-wingers turn into blubbering idiots at the mere mention of the name “Peskin.” I think the affliction is called “Peskin derangement syndrome.”

  81. Rose Pak doesn’t care about ideology. Rose Pak only cares about Rose Pak. As such, she can be on the right side of an issue every now and then. But I agree that in general, it’s a good thing for the city when the influence of such people is diminished. However, all you “moderates” loved her when she was joined at the hip with Willie Brown. Everything that is deplorable about Rose Pak can also be said about Willie Brown and Ed Lee. And yet you love Ed Lee.

  82. That scenario would never happen, because Aaron Peskin, for all his dealmaking, is at his core a man of principle. Ron Conway, too, is an ideological animal. Like with any multimillionaire, it’s about money, yes; but he’s also focused on a deepseated hatred for anything progressive. So that scenario is fantasy.

    Operators like Rose Pak (and Clint Reilly before her) are cut from a different cloth. She’s a machine boss for whom the accumulation of power is an end in and of itself. She’ll align with whomever she thinks will further that goal.

    But the struggle in San Francisco is about class, not race. There are plenty of non-Asians who kiss up to tech and developer money for the sake of advancing their own careers -Malia Cohen, Mark Leno, London Breed all come to mind. And then there are Asians like Jeff Adachi and Leland Yee who don’t. I understand why some on the right want to muddy the waters with talk of an “Asian cabal.” It doesn’t make it any less ugly though. It’s classic divide and conquer tactics. Racist and disgusting.

  83. The problem is, Sam, you don’t think you are being disrespectful when you disagree with someone you write that they should ‘grow up.’ That is incredibly arrogant and condescending and often starts flame wars.

    There are many other examples of your being disrespectful. You are the problem.

  84. I live in district 3. I resent the fact that Christensen wants to be my representative but, according to the SF Examiner, she refuses to say if she supported the height variance for 8 Washington or not.

    Not a very good start.

    “When asked Wednesday, Christensen would not say whether she had supported the 8 Washington development, which could become a campaign issue.

    However, she acknowledged she was disappointed by both sides and that “I would like to move away from bumper stickers and from kneejerk either yes or no to actually looking at goals and trade-offs. I have a good record of coming up with projects that deal with a lot of controversy, but in the end come out on the winning side.””

    http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/mayor-ed-lee-appoints-julie-christensen-to-district-3-seat/Content?oid=2916179

    If you can’t say what you stand for, get the hell out of Dodge.

  85. The repeated calls for getting rid of the trolls has nothing to do with free speech. Trolls are destructive to the fabric of free speech. Troll infestations make real commentators stay away from a site. Which is of course what the trolls want. Their job, like termites, is to destroy.

    Now I wouldn’t go so far as some have suggested to get rid of all right wing commentators. I don’t mind right wing commentators. 4thGen and Folderplate seem sincere, and occasionally even make cogent points. SFRentier is just a hateful misanthrope. He’s like the Chormefields on SFBG, but without the wit. But I don’t consider him a troll. Too honest. Sam, however, is your classic troll. He monopolizes the discussion, polluting the site to the point where most of the verbiage on here comes from him. Simply scrubbing the site free of Sam’s commentary would do a lot for it.

    Honestly, Tim… there’s no other way. Ignore him, he wins -the site basically becomes his. Respond to him -he wins, because the whole discussion becomes about him and his single-minded agenda. And yeah, I know he changes his IP address repeatedly, so banning him isn’t a permanent fix. The only way to do it is to physically scrub the site clear of his posts. Yeah… it’s work. But the good news is that like a chronic staph infection, it gets easier once treatment begins in earnest. It’s serious work at first, but then maintenance therapy usually keeps the infection at bay.

  86. I’m not using TOR but I do sometimes post via proxy servers, for security and privacy reasons.

    My VPN is hosted in the UK and Holland which is probably why some bozo claimed I was from there. i am in 94114.

    Either way, I am not Dave.

  87. Sam, Since one entity claims you’re located in Great Britain & another thinks you’re operating out of Los Angeles then perhaps you’re using TOR & your IP address is forever changing & encrypted.

  88. Thanks, OD. Tim doesn’t pay me, and neither does anyone else. If Tim didn’t value my contributions here I would leave in a minute, but the only email I ever got from him contained these warm, evocative words:

    “I really really respect . . you and your opinions, and I want you to be part of this site, and you . . have a lot of intelligent ideas to contribute.”

    If my modest contributions here shed a little light and confer a little truth, then my time here has been well spent.

  89. SFist is bad, but they take their lead from Gotham.ist, which is appalling.

    SF.streetsblog.org is another one that censors anyone who disagrees with them.

    Never engage an entity that denies free speech. What happened in Paris today shows the danger of those who fear freedom of expression.

  90. “I cannot in all conscience diss a fellow RE investor.”

    I’ve got to say, you get a lot of flack here, Sam, but you’re really the only one that keeps this site entertaining. If you’re on anyone’s payroll, it’s not a real estate developer’s, but Tim’s. Well done. Thanks for your contributions.

  91. This place is awesome. There are other places (SFist – cough cough) doing banning of anyone that doesn’t follow the “party line”. But then again, look at who’s running SFist, for instance. Tells you all you need to know on the masthead.

    Discussing issues are important. It’s important to listen to everyone.

  92. So true. Nothing more disgusting and greedy than someone who wants to support herself and not live on government assistance.

  93. Her company bio says she has a background in painting and sculpture but then COMMERCIALIZED her artistic leanings. Disgusting. She’s just another greedy capitalist out to ruin our city.

  94. There is a mute switch for everyone here. You just see the poster’s name and then ignore their contribution.

    Why is that so hard for you?

  95. Lee got a 60% mandate from the people over his anti-jobs opponent in the “runoff”. So he doesn’t have to take orders from anyone, or at least that is what Tim is arguing here, since he just shafted Pak.

  96. I know, but don’t you think that maybe SF has gotten more moderate since then?

    At least, that’s certainly the complaint that progressive whiners typically lament about.

  97. “Imagine if we had eleven supervisors whose votes had to be won and persuaded, rather than bought and bullied.”

    Strange words coming from you, Spam, considering how much you blow a horn for the bought and bullied Mayor Lee.

  98. “While the odd exception to that (Moscone, Agnos) never ends well.” Cute! So someone who’s not pro-developer might get voted down, or might be shot by a pro-developer guy.

    BTW, Frank Jordan was also a one-term mayor.

  99. I agree, Shap. Tim has made various appeals for civility here, which appear to have fallen on deaf ears in many cases, where the temptation to resort to ad hominem attacks when losing a debate are seemingly irresistible, apparently.

    More broadly, I never understand why some people get so angry when discussing politics. Do they really take things so seriously? After all, we are merely debating ideas and possibilities. Surely it is both feasible and desirable to debate such issues while retaining good humor and a respectful disposition.

    As MLK famously opined, “we must learn how to disagree without being disagreeable”. When we fail to meet that standard, then we see a range of bad behaviors from blocking transportation to what happened in Paris today.

  100. Remember the first couple of years of Ed Lee’s term as mayor? Whenever he made a decision they didn’t like, the BG crowd howled how he was a mere puppet of Rose Pak and some power hungry Asian cabal. But when she supported Campos against Chiu (another member of that supposed Asian group), nary a peep from them.

    So just to clarify, when someone you hate helps elect someone you hate, it’s evil and they’re just putting out a good face while they pull the strings, but when someone you hate helps elect someone you like, it’s… what? Good judgement and working for the people? I’d hate to see what would happen if, say in the race for Sheriff, Ron Conway supported Ross Mirkarimi while Aaron Peskin supported Greg Suhr.

  101. @jch-
    Mary Jung, the current head of the DCCC, is also ‘manager of local government partnerships for PG&E’.

    Source: http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/moderate-picked-to-lead-san-francisco-democratic-county-central-committee/Content?oid=2201966

    When Peskin took over the DCCC its endorsements virtually guaranteed election. After a few years of his ‘management’ they were worthless. Mary Jung is his legacy.

    Then look up ‘intellectual runt’ in the dictionary. Peskin left office in 2008 at age 43. He just spent the prime years of 43-50 doing absolutely nothing and now he wants the same job that he had when he was 36 years old. And we’re not talking about being Governor or even Mayor; we’re talking about the lowest rung of political office.

    That is pretty much the definition of ‘intellectual runt’ but if you need any further explanation then just listen to him speak; preferably when sober.

  102. There are a lot of people here who just seem angry along with those who who resort to name-calling and ad hominem attacks. It’s too bad. Whether you agree with the author, now or ever, would it not be more beneficial to persuade others to see your viewpoint if you attack arguments rather than people? Th
    ere are a lot of smart people who like to discuss issues and would most likely weigh in if commenters were more respectful of others’ opinions. OK, have at me!

  103. I am not Dave. It is possible that two people can have an opinion different from you, you know? In fact, 60% of people have different opinions from you, if the Lee-Avalos result is any guide.

    Tim can see all IP addresses and I give him full permission to reveal if he sees that Dave and I have the same IP address.

    So why not try refuting us instead?

  104. It’s sad that Sam and Dave (get it?) are the same sad person who comment on each others ultra-right wing nutty comments. Mental masturbation on display in all its apparent and sad loneliness.

  105. An intellectual runt? What is the evidence for this? And who was the PG&E lobbyist who took over the DCCC? Is he or she still there?

  106. Has Peskin been unemployed for those seven years? That would certainly explain why he is seen everywhere sticking his nose in.

    But I agree that it’s really sad that he is the only supervisor who went from boss of the board to a zero. (Gonzalez went back to his old job, no?).

    Well, Daly has gone downhill too I guess, but at least he had a job at SEIU and ran a bar. until he realized that evicting people from their homes is more profitable anyway. I cannot in all conscience diss a fellow RE investor.

  107. Yes. Think of all that Peskin has accomplished since he left office. Took control of the DCCC and drove it into the hands of a PG&E lobbyist in just a few short years. Other than that…he has nothing to show for the past 7 years. Zip. Nada.

    People like David Chiu, Tom Amiano, Gavin Newsom, Carmen Chu spend some time as Supervisors and then go on to higher levels. Peskin is left back at the city alderman level.

    What Tim and the other progressives will never understand is that Peskin is dumb. He is stupid. I know that he has a beard and likes to strut around but to anyone who is paying attention, objectively, the guy is an intellectual runt and the record speaks for itself.

  108. Or, as Dave notes above, Janet may turn out to be more liberal than some think. She’ll never be a mindless kneejerk socialist vote like the hopeless, hapless Campos. But she also won’t be an automatic moderate vote either.

    In fact, she may turn out to be what you hate even more – a supervisor who thinks for themselves, considers the issues, takes advice, can talk to all parties rather than just her own, and votes contextually on the facts.

    I give Jane Kim a similar compliment. I don’t like all her votes but nor does anyone else, and that is precisely what is good about her. That sets her way ahead of the ill-fated and ultimately unelectable Debra Walker.

    Imagine if we had eleven supervisors whose votes had to be won and persuaded, rather than bought and bullied.

    If that argument fails then at least you avoided having yet another Asian on the board. I know you hate that too.

  109. I think Tim is right. Had he chosen Wu, it would ironically have been better for the cause of developers and their ilk. I don’t think Wu was exactly a “progressive.” But they got greedy and decided they wanted someone completely in their pocket. Now they’ll probably get Peskin, which would be fine by me.

    This is the mark of an administration that’s drunk with power. It reminds me of the last days of Willie Brown an his “mistresses.” There’s not even a pretense of any compromise, not even lip service to inclusivity. I think it will end similarly.

  110. Christensen is a product designer, not a developer. Her development experience seems to be centered on the building of a public library and the renovation of a playground. She has sat on the advisory panel for SPUR, as has Cindy Wu. Christensen has been active in D3 for decades, Wu, for months.

    You’ll notice that Tim doesn’t offer any basis for his thesis that Christensen is just a rubber stamp for pro development votes. He didn’t even try to make something up.

    It is a GREAT sign that Tim Redmond doesn’t like this appointment. Can’t think of a better indicator to show that even better days are ahead.

    Ed Lee ROCKS!

  111. Barry, the situation you describe could not have endured but for the will of the people, who routinely elect a pro-growth, pro-jobs, pro-development mayor.

    While the odd exception to that (Moscone, Agnos) never ends well.

    A more legitimate complaint would be that your ideological views on how this city should be run is a minority viewpoint, and so you perpetually struggle to win elections when it matters.

    It’s hard for the progressive one third of the people to impose their will on the moderate silent majority. I feel for you. I really do.

  112. Absolutely right, Got my popcorn. This “strong mayor” doctrine is absurd and tailor-made for power and longevity to the machine. The proof is right in front of your eyes—the same people have been running things since I came to this town in 1967. That can never be good and in San Francisco it has devolved to government by plutocrats like Ron Conway, etc. I see no real difference between the Ed Lee regime of 2015 and old fashioned rule by Republicans in the deep pocket of big money. There’s window-dressing on social issues but basically we’re talking about deeply entrenched Republicans and those who buy them. The only answer is Charter reform, but when this was tried last year it got nowhere at the BOS because the balance of power lies with Lee.

  113. Yes, isn’t it touching that Tim is reaching out sympathetically to Rose Pak? Tim feels her pain and wants to help.

    And of course Tim isn’t concerned that there were no white women on the board. He feels that diversity is over-rated anyway, and prefers there be five Asians on the board. After all, they are the model minority right?

    The reality is that D3 isn’t particularly progressive, containing some of the most affluent neighborhoods in the city. History may well show that Peskin’s tenure there was the real anomaly.

    I’m comfortable with Julie.

  114. And yet I don’t see you arguing that the supervisors should also give up their power to elect an interim mayor as they did when Gavin went to Sac.

  115. Todd, Peskin would be better for your neighborhood than any of the big monied developer-friendly choices. You posted already about the evisceration of the Bernal Heights Special Use District. Planning will only tilt further towards developers’ interests vs. neighbors’ with the Mayor’s choice.

  116. Btw, regardless of who’s doing the appointing and whom they appoint, it’s completely and utterly undemocratic that in SF the executive branch gets to appoint positions on the legislative branch, which is supposed to be the check on the executive branch’s power. Where else in our country does this nonsense exist?

  117. Hmmm. Well, will CCDC continue to support a Mayor that used them for as long as thought he needed to and has now thrown them to the curb? This is getting interesting.

  118. Rose Pak’s power is finally dimishing. She’s had the run of this city for way too long! This is great.

  119. c’mon, man, if he’d chosen Wu, you’d be on these pages saying that Lee was in the pocket of Rose Pak. Christensen has lived in that district for what, 20 years or something? such a horrible choice!

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