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Poll shows trouble for Ed Lee — and the DCCC leadership

Democrats really don't like the mayor's job performance -- and don't like having the realtors in charge of the local party

The poll commissioned by Jon Golinger, a candidate for the Democratic County Central Committee, sheds some real light on how members of the majority party in this city think (and where the mayor’s real support comes from).

Mary Jung is a lobbyist for the Association of Realtors -- and head of the local Democratic Party. Voters see this as a problem
Mary Jung is a lobbyist for the Association of Realtors — and head of the local Democratic Party. Voters see this as a problem

I’ve seen the data. More than 95 percent of the people who responded said they were absolutely going to vote in the June primary, so these are committed Democrats. In fact, 76 percent said they approve of President Obama’s job performance.

But only 36 percent say the same about Mayor Ed Lee. And 52 percent say he’s doing a bad job.

That, of course, suggests that a strong, experienced candidate with a track record could have defeated Lee last November, but no such person came forward. The mayor won about 56 percent of the vote against three candidates most voters had never heard of – and the poll suggests that a big chunk of those votes came from Republicans and independents.

The poll also suggests that in heavily progressive, Democratic districts, like 5, 9, and 11, the endorsement and support of the mayor might not be all that helpful to candidates for supervisor this fall. It’s no surprise that Hillary Ronen is already making it clear that she’s running against the mayor’s record and policies in D9.

Then there’s the interesting attitude toward the current leadership of the Democratic Party in San Francisco.

The chair of the DCCC is Mary Jung, who is also a lobbyist for the Association of Realtors. A sizeable majority of Democrats think that’s a problem: 57 percent said they would vote to put someone independent of the real-estate industry in charge of the party.

I don’t think anyone wants to make this race personal, and there’s no candidate running “against” Jung. That’s not how this works; you elect candidates to the DCCC and they choose a chair. But there will be a progressive reform slate, and the idea that the real-estate industry has taken over the local party will be a powerful argument.

It’s also an interesting and potentially powerful argument in D9, where Josh Arce is running against Ronen and Edwin Lindo, and Arce a member of the DCCC, appointed by Jung, and has been and will likely be among those who run as supporters of the current leadership. If anything, I would say the sentiment against the realtors is even stronger in D9 than in the rest of the city.

Let’s remember: Most of the city came together – the mayor, the supes, even Ron Conway – to support Sen. Mark Leno’s efforts to reform the Ellis Act. It lost in Sacramento, thanks in large park, Leno later told me, to the efforts of the California Association of Realtors. You know, the same group that has a local affiliate whose lobbyist runs the local Democratic Party.


Tim Redmond
Tim Redmond has been a political and investigative reporter in San Francisco for more than 30 years. He spent much of that time as executive editor of the Bay Guardian. He is the founder of 48hills.
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  1. 48 Hills is journalism. You’re a nazi who wants to narrowly define what qualifies as journalism, and to squelch political voices you disagree with.

    Why don’t you go buy yourself a copy of ‘Season of the Witch’ and burn it, you fucking Nazi.

    There: I refuted you.

  2. No, if you could refute me, you would. You’d rather throw out cliches.

    48Hills is a vehicle for propaganda. As such it invites critical contributions and, indeed, Tim claims to welcome them. I feel sure he feels that it sharpens up his talking points, debating skills and rhetorical expertize.

  3. I have a policy of giving those who blithely throw around ‘Goebbels’ and ‘Vichy’ and ‘Nazi’ the respect and responses that they deserve, which is none.

  4. No refutation then?

    48Hills is more propaganda than it is journalism. As such, it invites constructive criticism in order for a more balanced viewpoint to emerge.

    Or would you have taken the Vichy approach?

  5. An editorial is usually an opinion piece within an otherwise serious and reputable newspaper that is identified as such to indicate that it is reporting opinions and not facts. It’s really suspending journalism and instead having a rant.

    When an entire newspaper or website is devoted to such ideological bias and subjectivity, we typically regard that as not being journalism at all, but something more like the marketing materials for a business, or the propaganda used in political campaign. Nobody takes it as serious objective journalism.

    It’s not editorial journalism or advocacy journalism because neither is journalism at all. Was Goebbels a journalist? Biased writing should be challenged.

  6. Further research, not hard to do, the DCCC executive committee is made up of some teachers, educators, and advocates, but a larger number of tech industry insiders such as the GC of Sidecar, and two people who hold marketing positions for tech companies, as well as others, beyond Jung, who are intimately connected to the architect/developer community. Everyone knows that access is for sale in San Francisco, whether it be in the restaurant or building inspectors offices or at the highest levels, fundraisers to the mayor, etc. Of course you could pledge blind allegiance to your party and assert that all of the charges, litigation, and allegations over the years are a giant conspiracy! If that’s where you stand then you’re in the luck the X Files are back on TV!

  7. Maybe because journalists, although they should never shy from admitting their ideological leanings, are at their best when they don’t align themselves with any particular party. And maybe, just maybe, this means that all the supporters of the status quo may be a little off base. Just call up Hillary and the national party!

  8. Rebecca Prozan – Google lobbyist/fixer, go down the list people. You get the government you deserve when you live in a banana republic run by a cabal of connected, echo chamber yes man…with lots of money to throw around!

  9. I think that’s why Sam chose to use the same handle as me. He thrives on attention like any good troll. It’s a clever tactic to use the same handle as another poster. But it’s painfully obvious by now which “Greg” is really “Sam.”

  10. I am not particularly nationalistic. But I do condemn those who hate America and support its enemies, like the other Greg.

  11. So “Article II, Section 14(a) of the California Constitution” does not require reasons to be stated?

    I do not need to state any “reasons” because, unlike you, I accept election results and the will of the people, and do not seek to undermine either.

  12. I know it can happen. I even gave some examples.

    I was asking for those “reasons”. Nobody here can come up with any. Which just leaves the “sore loser” syndrome.

  13. “Barry” (whoever he is – I’ve never hard of him either) made some nebulous vague claim and even admitted that he had nothing to back it up with (dressing that up with some “need to know” nonsense).

    So of course you should not believe that. Neither do do. It’s just wishful thinking on the part of someone who lost the election and lacks the maturity to accept that.

    If you have evidence of “bribes” then go to the DA. But I am guessing that is another of those unsubstantiated allegations that you claim to hate.

    Dude, what is wrong with just admitting that you lost an election and will try to do better in 2019?

  14. A recall attempt would be an epic bust because nobody on the left has formulated any substantive policy solutions to challenge Lee and his Conway-backed cabal. Nobody takes seriously a bunch of activists who protest Google buses and the Super Bowl, and push idiotic ideas like housing moratoria. The idiots heckling Lee everywhere only play into his hands by looking like children.

  15. Lol, is this for real? All credibility with this post got tossed as soon as it started with “poll commissioned by Jon Golinger”, and that all we have is Tim’s word that he’s “seen the data.”

  16. Lol, if you think running a pointless, spite based campaign in the midst of very serious and viable attempts by progressives to hold onto the board is a good idea, then well, go ahead.

  17. For a recall to take place “there typically has to be gross misbehavior, criminal acts or acts of moral turpitude to remove a leader between elections.” $am’s assertion above.

    According to the Secretary of State, the recall petition must contain the following:

    A statement, not over two hundred words in length, of the reasons for the recall. A reason must be provided, but under Article II, Section 14(a) of the California Constitution, the sufficiency of this reason is not reviewable.


    In a word, you are wrong $am. Voters can recall Ed Lee if they damn well feel like it.

  18. You’re twisting my comments into something I did not say, another of your argumentative tactics. I would enjoy seeing it, but until I know more, I’m not betting on it. That is not skepticism, it’s prudence. Similarly, I would not bet against Ed Lee being convicted of accepting bribes to shape city policy. This too is not skepticism, it’s prudence.

    The other point is that I don’t have a history with Barry. With you there is a long list of dubious comments that you’ve been unable to defend.

  19. OK, so you are not giving Barry’s claim any credibility on the grounds that he cannot furnish any supporting evidence? Fair enough; you’re consistent.

    If it is a choice between believing a recently elected mayor (Ed) and believing some anonymous commentator on the internet (Barry) then I believe that your scepticism is warranted.

  20. I’m adopting your tactic $am. True until you prove it wrong. Also, it’s easily as plausible as most of the claims you make on these threads.

    That said, I wouldn’t put money on it happening; not until I see something more concrete than I see here. Nor would I put money on any of your claims being accurate either.

  21. Well, yes, an elected leader can be recalled. It’s called an election.

    But failing that there typically has to be gross misbehavior, criminal acts or acts of moral turpitude to remove a leader between elections. It happened with Governor Davis. It happened with President Nixon. It probably should have happened with Mirk.

    Being vaguely unpopular, even if that were true for Lee, doesn’t cut it. If that were true, we’d have mayoral recalls all the time, and I cannot think of it happening even once in recent times.

    In fact, a leader cannot make the tough decisions without suffering a measure of unpopularity. If everyone was happy, I’d suspect spineless wishy-washy leadership with no real values or principles.

    Whatever happened to losing with dignity and honor?

  22. It really has been nuts, especially considering that Tim at al at 48 Hills are very plainly progressive / liberal. I truly don’t understand why so many rabid mouth-breathers take to the comments here.

  23. I look forward to seeing how this transpires. It could add an interesting element to the fall election and create problems for conservative board candidates.

  24. Cue the right wing trolls. Is anyone noticing they are reacting much more aggressively, without their usual faux rationality. Because they smell their piggy asses frying? Just saying…

  25. It also failed because most reasonable politicians and voters understand that Ellis is an important safety valve for property owners who end up getting stuck with long-term tenants on uneconomic rents.

    Ellis ensures that owning a rental property is not a life sentence nor a suicide pact. Nobody should be compelled to run a business when they no longer wish to – it’s common sense.

  26. I am calling BS on that and not just because of your lame “I’m not at liberty to discuss” piece of self-important posturing and bluster in place of any facts.

    An elected leader cannot just be recalled because some people do not like him. There are always people who disfavor or oppose a duly elected official. But just a few weeks after the inauguration following an easy re-election win, when no material facts have changed since then, it’s a non-starter and you know it.

    Some people know how to lose an election and not sulk or throw a hissy fit. But not you, evidently.

  27. Oh yes, Lee’s approval ratings do matter very much because the mayor can be recalled and a strong movement is under way to do just that. I’m not at liberty to discuss those involved at this preliminary stage but I can state that they are very well-known and well-connected personalities in the political establishment, household names in fact.

  28. Gutting the Ellis act did not succeed in Sacramento because SF Progressives are in a bubble and do not understand, nor care about the rest of the State.

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