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News + PoliticsWhy Chief Suhr will soon step down

Why Chief Suhr will soon step down

It's over -- the chief will have to retire soon. But who will replace him?

Police Chief Greg Suhr will be stepping down in a matter of weeks.

That’s my prediction, based on the fact that he has lost the support of four supervisors (and maybe more to come), that his department has been slammed by an outside investigation, and that, as many people (including those close to him) have told me, the chief has become “a distraction.”

A bust of former Mayor Dianne Feinstein carries the message of the protest
A bust of former Mayor Dianne Feinstein carries the message of the protest

Suhr, who is a personable, often charming guy with exceptional political skills, has somehow weathered a long list of problems. (Among other things, the Office of Citizen Complaints found him guilty of neglect of duty in the 1996 death of Mark Garcia. The incident has been forgotten by a lot of news media, but at the time it was a huge issue in the city. Suhr was the lieutenant in charge when died in custody after being pepper sprayed and forced to lie face-down in a vehicle.)

So it’s not as if Suhr has a stellar, unblemished record: Many officers who have been demoted and cited for neglect of duty would have found their careers stalled. He got where he is by building connections with political leaders.

And now that those political leaders are starting to abandon him, he’s in serious trouble.

Suhr’s best argument for keeping his job (and one that Mayor Lee is essentially endorsing) is that there’s  is nobody else in the command staff who would be any better. In fact, Suhr has done the ultimate in personal preservation: He has failed to groom a successor who would be anything other than a huge step backward.

The blue-ribbon panel on police accountability noted that one of the biggest problems in the department is the outsized role the Police Officers Association, which has been able to influence not only policy but hiring and promotion.

So if Suhr goes and another SFPD officer takes his place, the POA will still be running the show.

But all over the city, people who once supported the chief are looking at the mess in the department and saying: Someone has to be held accountable. If he stays on, it says to the next chief that the department can fall into a mess and nothing will happen.

Suhr is going to retire pretty soon anyway, but according to a lot of sources, he is waiting for some element of his pension to vest. The chief’s retirement – and he will get about $270,000 a year for the rest of his life – should in no way be a factor in law-enforcement policy in San Francisco.

Mayor Ed Lee will never publicly pressure the chief, because he’s gone way too far in his support, despite all of the signs that things at SFPD are out of control and that someone has to be accountable.

The majority of the Police Commission is appointed by Lee, and will do what the mayor says.

But the mayor has to know that the chief has become the lightening rod, and that the community will never accept any reforms as long as Suhr is in charge.

I can see Suhr announcing that he will step down in a few months, whatever he needs to save face and make his pension work, and will work with the mayor on an orderly transition, etc. etc.

Then comes the real huge issue: Will Lee really do a national search, and be willing to go outside the department to find a leader who can change the culture at SFPD?

The local cops are a tight bunch, generally, and they hate outsiders. But it’s going to take someone who is not currently in the command staff and not part of the culture to fix the problems.

So let’s see if the administration has any courage, which of late has been in very short supply.

Tim Redmond
Tim Redmond has been a political and investigative reporter in San Francisco for more than 30 years. He spent much of that time as executive editor of the Bay Guardian. He is the founder of 48hills.
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  119. Every situation is unique of course. There are over a million police in the United States so I could not of course say that I don’t like police.
    The police in this country ar not really trained to deal with mentally ill or homeless people but with increasing numbers of homeless people in this country they need to be.
    There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that it could be time for a change in leadership. With the SFPD getting bad press all over the country maybe a change in leadership will be a good thing

  120. Well thats cool, my mom does the same thing and used to work at CDCR Vacaville . I wasnt saying you said all cops are pieces of shit, i said i thought you think that. And it still kinda seems like you dont like cops, but lots of people dont and thats not really important so whatever. I think most people who get the cops called on them for odd behavior are displaying odd behavior, I.e Alex Nieto shadow boxing, talking to himself, and threatening to kill strangers dogs. He was clearly mentally ill, the police report on his death that came out like a month ago went into detail about how he stopped taking his Abilify, said weed was all he needed, shot his best friend with a taser, and scared the shit outta his parents a week prior to his death by setting fire to a bunch of pieces of paper in his living room, mixing the ashes with water, and then eating the mixture up off of their front porch. I dont have alot of trouble believing he was having some sort of pyschosis or at the very least, an episode, the day he got killed. Similarly, Mario Woods and Louis Gongora both were in the midst of episodes when they died as well, it seems. I dunno if thid really explains much but SF does have a disproportionately high number of homeless, and with that comes a good number of mentally ill people. So maybe we just have more opportunities to kill crazy people than cops in lets say, Kansas City, or Dallas. I hear you on the shoot for the leg stuff, theres situations where thats a etter idea than others. I would not recommend aiming for someones leg if were downtown and theres people everywhere, thats asking for collateral damage. In a backyard, an alley, someones home? Aiming for an extremity instead of center mass could be a good call, that is if it ends up incapacitating them enough. Its really a crap shoot whether or not a shot to the arm or leg stops a person in their tracks, i guess you could shoot them once in each leg or something. Also, as demonstrated today with SFPD’s most recent killing, shooting once, or shooting an extremity, doesnt mean the person will be okay. Its a crap shoot. People get shot in the leg, bleed out in minutes, and die. With all those factors, asking an officer to calculate that type of thing in the moment is rough, doable, but rough, and when im in stressful situations, easy decisions arent so easy to make, and thats if i even have the wherewithal to remember whatever it is im supposed to remember in crisis situations. We need to cut these guys slack sometimes. I dunno if i agree that we have contempt for the downtrodden. All things considered, i think SF is more or less tolerant of the homeless and the majority of SF residents and politicians are willing to lend a hand some of the time. I think Gongora got shot because he scared the crap outta these cops and had a big knife. Police deal with the downtrodden dozens of times everyday and dont pump them with lead. No disciplinary action has been taken because th investigations havent yielded any wrong doing. Theres certain criteria that, if met, legally allow cops to kill people. The Gongora investigations not done yet but based on the facts of the case ive heard, i dont think well see any disciplinary action. As devastating a sight it is seeing someone shot like 15-20 times, number of shots fired usually isnt in and of itself enough to say an officer was negligent. I remember one case in NYC years ago where two or three cops let loose like 250 rounds. That case was a bit of an anomaly and idk wtf they were doing. If 10,20,30 shots are fired between several cops, thats not too crazy. Given the fact SFPD trains its officers to engage in “sympathy fire” if their partner is shooting at a perp. Thats one of the issues being looked at that might get ditched with Greg Suhrs ‘reforming’. They didnt murder him, according to the law, and murder is a legal term. The unlawful killing of an individual by another. If a killings investigated and determined by whoevers investigating-a grand jury, a judge, a panel-that the killing was lawful, it isnt a murder. We have different criterias for a reason, manslsughter, 1st degree murder, 2nd, involuntary manslaughter, etc. Calling someone a murderer is pretty intense so i personally think it should only be used when someones really a murderer. Even then, i think alot of people who commit murder are more than just murderers, alot have reasons for what they did and have more to them then their crime. So out of basic respect i dont think id even go up to a convicted murderer and say sup murderer, let alone a cop who literally was found to NOT be a murderer. Its a bit more complicated than a squemish wimp not becoming a surgeon, theres situations where the best trained officers, fire fighters, soldiers, pilots, ship captains, meet their match and hit an iceberg, or fly into the Bermuda triangle, or hit a roadside bomb, or bring the wrong size hose to the fire, or for cops, shoot a man that may have been able to have been handled with less than lethal force. Crap shoots up the whazzoo. Thats why i try not to judge. All SFPDs recent killings have had lethal weapons involved, except Nieto, whose taser was mistaken for and reported to be a gun to responding officers based on the accounts of a passerby that called 911. Theres more to it than being scared of blood and not being a doctor. Thats just an attempt at simplifying a complicated thing. I assume people are comfortable with what theyre doing unless they say otherwise, i agree that if youre scared of dodgy people, being a cop isnt the job for you. Someone who shoots a dodgy person isnt necessarily a wimp. I see it as Gongora raised the stakes and brought a knife to a gun fight. Based on what ive heard, there was plenty of reason to think he was willing and able to stab these cops, and no reasons to think he wouldnt.

  121. “all police are pieces of shit?” I never speak in absolutes like that. And yes, having worked as a psychiatric nurse I know that dealing with mentally ill people can be a daunting task. The United States has woefully inadequate resources for people who have any type of mental disorders, that is one of the reasons there is such a large prison population. On the other hand, the police need to be able to handle situations like this without shooting people to death in cold blood. They could have shot the Gongoras in the leg. They didn’t need to pulverize the body by shooting him over and over again.There is no excuse for this, and it is symbolic of our society’s contempt for the downtrodden.
    No disciplinary action has been taken against these policemen. They murdered this guy. If they can’t maintain social order without pulverizing the homeless they should not be police. Find some other profession. If you can’t handle the sight of blood don’t become a doctor.

  122. I see youre hung up on the Gongora killing. Obviously theres nothing illegal about being down on your luck and homeless, i think it should be noted though, that police were called to Shotwell by members of a homeless outreach team (people who deal with the homeless daily and who i’d think are good at gauging their behavior). They were frightened by Gongoras behavior, coupled with the fact he had a huge knife, these seasoned homeless advocates thought the police needed to come. Calling his death an execution is, again, overly dramatic and innacurate. Thats to say, we both know there are other less heavy words that better describe the situation that actually happened. I dont think i need to go through why calling Gongoras death an execution is irresponsible if you want to be fair and unbiased. Maybe you dont have any desire to be those things.
    The armchair critiquing is typical, seems like its getting more common, i just see it as douchey and disrespectful. Its the most difficult jobs that are looked at under microscopes. I find it ironic that youre willing to cut slack to individuals youve never met who conduct themselves in unexplainaby aggressive ways (like pulling tasers out on police or refusing to comply with simple, reasonable demands like “put that down”) but couldnt be harsher in ridicule of the people we hand off the difficult and dangerous task of calming the craziest segments of the population. Maybe you dont have acutely mentally ill people in your immediate family like i do, people can be unreachable. Nice people can become unrecognizable, youre a grown up, i dont think you need to hear me ramble about this, insanity is a thing and insane people need to be taken in and given attention. I think you need to be more fair. You clearly have feelings about law enforcement as a whole. I’m intentionally being indifferent. You dont need to do shit frankly, how often do people actually change their opinions? Im just here on a graveyard shift with hella time and i think youre accusing people of being judgmental, judgmentally. Thats what this boils down to, and politics. What better way to validate the existence of “white privilege”, “implicit bias”, “institutionalized racism”, then labeling a majority caucasian, historically male dominated arm of the government (essentially) whose job is simply to control, as murderers and oppresors of minorities. Whats funny is Greg Suhr-this enabler of racism and murder with “blood on his hands”, made his way in the force by gaining the trust of the Bayview district, if you ever make a wrong turn and end up over there, ask the grandmas in the Oakdale projects or the average african american man on the street about Suhrs reputation in the hood, hes cherished. Obviously people down with new era progressivism are drooling at this opportunity to stick it to the establishment. Look how the “frisco 5” relentlessly demanded Greg resign, all while acknowledging his removal would do nothing. Its a power struggle and white dudes like me are clueless chicken heads to everyone, were given stink eyes, any success we have is discredited outright-proof of these phenomenons existence, and were associated with every single injustice thats taken place over the last 300 years. That isnt fair, just like saying deadly force is acceptable “as a last resort”, but deeming something a “last resort” is completely subjective. I think an hour of bean bag rounds, pepper spray, crystal clear explanations of what you need to do to live, and what will get you killed-followed up with deliberate disobeying and approaching said officers with the one thing they want you to drop-constitutes a “last resort”. Cops dont sign up agreeing that confrontations with criminals need to be equal or that criminals well being is of primary concern. Cops dont need to take a blade to the gut, cuz hey, most likely they’ll live. Sorry. When people whove done nothing but prove themselves to be lunatics threaten officers, i dont question trained professionals ball size & bravery. These scenarios are scary as hell and i’m not even in them, the deceased are nearly always spelled out the options that wouldve had them live to see another day. If the cops dont do that, thats when we charge them with negligence or murder. Not when 5 washed up hippies get stoned and concoct the random idea to not eat and blame the government for everything that follows. They fuckin drank chicken broth, water and juice! And took vitamins! Thats called a political stunt. Calling it a hunger strike was an insult to true victims of self imposed starvation like Bobby Sands, who had real grievances. I forget where i was going with that, but fuck the frisco 5. Try not seeing all cops as pieces of shit, it seems to me like thats the only place we differ. Go Warriors.

  123. If the police can’t maintain civil order without executing the homeless and people who may be committing minor offenses then they should chose other professions. You have to be able to control yourself in hostile situations, if you can’t go into other work.
    There are bodies of literature and people who have spent their lives analyzing why minorities in America ( even though people of color are not really minorities anymore ) are targeted more by the police than white people, it is way too complex an issue for this particular blog.
    Violence begets violence. We live in a violent society in an increasingly violent world. If the law enforcement officials and the military can’t act as models of behavior by using deadly force as a last resort they are making the problem worse.

  124. Look, idk if you enjoy being overly dramatic or if you were truly coddled enough to believe what youre saying. Not that you give a fuck, or have any reason to believe a word i say-theres a very real, and very obvious difference in the way we see things. Why that is, idk. I know that personally, i’ve been exposed to things like having close friends and family viciously slaughtered. So those arent just words that flow off the tongue with ease for me. My great grandma had her throat slit by her downstairs neighbor when i was 4, my best childhood friend was shot in the back of the neck in a botched pot deal a little over two years ago, and a second cousin of mine-a cop-was shot by another cop,accidentally, several years ago when he emptied out every bullet but the one in the chamber and fired at my cousin during a drill. Those are tragedies & examples of vicious slaughter, blood curdling forsure. I’m not saying Alex Nieto, who i actually knew in passing (were both from the same street in Bernal Heights), deserved to die. Or that Mario Woods did either. Or Gongora, or Amilcar-Perez. I have alot of issues with the way youre characterizing the violence were discussing, but like i said, i dont think you give a fuck about a strangers opinion on the web, against my better judgment ill continue though . I think youre underestimating the amount of distress-life long distress-associated with taking a life, even if by law the killing is “justified”. And i think you overestimate the impact of the deceased’s race in the deaths of obviously desperate, obviously disassociated, almost always ill people, wielding what society has agreed are dangerous objects/weapons. I’m adopted, white, and have two black siblings..so i feel i have a horse in this race many people don’t. My siblings are also adopted, and by all accounts, they both ought to be experiencing the callous racism and bias you described in your post. Maybe i’m a piece of shit, but im the only one in my family with a police record, only one whose been to jail, and for whatever reason, i get stopped by police at what i consider outrageous rates. Im 24 and have been pulled over more than that many times for a laundry list of B.S and legitimate reasons. Go figure. The certainty with which you accuse police of some kind of racist plot to kill off minorities is paranoid and ignores entirely the fact that African Americans and Latinos are disproportionately afflicted by poverty in this country (for a multitude of reasons-plain old racism included) and thus need to resort to things most whites usually don’t ever have to do out of necessity, like deal drugs to afford clothes for one’s kids or-at the risk of sounding even more stereotypical and basic-rob or steal to substitute for the income that many minority families dont have access too (yes i know youre thinking im an idiot&a bigot at this point). The situations im alluding to are clearly sad, but theyre very real, and i could give you more personal examples being a product of a multi cultural, inner city, public schooled family who rode the bus to school since the 3rd grade and lived in neighborhoods some San Franciscans go lifetimes never entering (look up Sunnydale) . But were all products of our environment, and for whatever reason, you sound hell bent on proving a dramatic and twisted narrative as opposed to a more humanist narrative filled with honest miscommunication and legitimate fear and misunderstanding on both sides. “The police are racist murderers and i’d rather live in ISIS’s caliphate than interact with them”. Im keeping it 100% real with you when i say misunderstandings often tragically lead to conclusions like the ones that make your blood curdle. Conclusions that took the life of my old neighbor Alex, and the lives of countless others at the hands of cops. I dont envy any officer who lives with a body on their conscience, i think officers that have taken lives think about it every day and think about what could’ve happened differently. I think cops breath a deep sigh of relief when they get to put their guns back in their holsters after confrontations. With all that said, i hope you give the same benefit of the doubt to police (who are just people too) that you give to the deceased who are of course equally as entitled to life as the cops who end up feeling the need to shoot them for whatever tragic reason. Situations exist where cops are allowed to defend themselves, its easy to be a drama queen from the safety of your macbook pro’s keypad. If I cant say with absolute certainty that i could talk down someone who may be a good guy 95% of the time, but whose coming at me with a kitchen knife here in the now. If i have a gun and the right to self defense on my side, that 5% could very well be the end of that usually decent mans life. Cops dont care if youre black or hispanic, they care what youre doing. Thats why everyone killed by Sfpd the past 4 years had some kind of weapon on them and acted erratically in one way or another, refusing to drop an object when facing 5 loaded 9mm’s and given lethaly clear ultimatums is erratic. This isnt target practice and people (white people and cops specifically, since they seem to be youre target demographic) arent as fucked up as you make them sound, you’ll believe what you wanna though. Have a nice life & i hope you remember that weirdo online who encouraged you to paint your strokes less broad. Tone the rhetoric down, i think deep down you know you’d rather be out to dinner with Greg Suhr than Abu Bakhr Al-Baghdadi. Cheers. Go Warriors.

  125. the viscous slaughtering and execution of the homeless and people of color by the SFPD is chilling and blood curdling. Granted police brutality in the United States is out of control particularly when directed against black and Hispanic people but this takes police brutality to a whole new level. I think I would rather be kidnapped by Isis than subjected to the wrath of the deranged police in that city

  126. I used to resort to vulgar & cliché sexual inferences too in discussions where i had nothing of substance left to say, or when it became clear i didn’t really care about the issue as much as the people calling me out on my bullshit did. That was when I was like 17, i’m a big bad 24 year old now and no matter which explanation you go with, you’re response (lack there-of, rather) says alot about the depth of your interest & knowledge about the topic, period. You look pretty in your picture there, get some better comebacks and i bet you’d be a fun chick to hang out with. Anything in the “bend over and get ready for such and such” category’s played out. Those jokes are lame.

  127. And even if you go the distance, and label every single officer involved killing a homicide (homicide is a specific thing, a man who shoots and kills an intruder in his home did not commit a homicide), that would be one this year, two last year, and 1 in 2014. Although there was also a man who died outside the ihop on lombard last year as well. His autopsy came back as cardiac arrest though, so i guess if you were reaaaally looking to paint the police “some type of way”…you could say he was a victim of police homicide too, because like…if he hadnt been chased after punching a cop in the face…he probably wouldnt have succumbed to a medical emergency having to do with exacerbating himself physically. And since im not an idiot and you are trying to make the police look like killers in no uncertain terms, ill give you him as a homicide too. Go look up how many homicides SF had last year, in 2014, and so far this year. You cleary have a computer, now go learn something.

  128. According to the NY Times, property crime rates in San Francisco are the highest in the United States. The richest city in the richest state in the richest country in the world. Go figure.
    And it seems like the SFPD commits enough homicides on their own to spike the violent crime rate without any help at all from the criminals

  129. Property crime is the only crime rate thats spiked during his tenure, violent crime, homicides, robbery, etc, are all at historic lows. In 2007 ( i believe, may have been ’08 or ’06), SF had 100 murders. We averaged roughly 75-90 a year for decades. Sometimes eclipsing the eery 100 mark that most cities never cross. Last year we had 30 something, so far this year, 20 something, two years ago, 40 something. Crime is changing and if you are gonna cite crime rate fluctuation as a reason Suhr sucks, you need to at least clarify yourself. Property crime is annoying, and its way too common in the city, but id rather property crime over violent crime. Suhr is addressing property crime rates as well, too. I dont really get your last sentence. Sounds creepy. Suhrs not, you should go to one of the community meetings he hosts once a month and talk to the man.

  130. I don’t really have a dog in this fight. But I don’t like that crime rates have skyrocketed under his leadership. Don’t see any improvements if he stays – just theatrics.

    He does know where ‘the bodies are buried’ though.

  131. Only problem is the city leaders cited and revered by you as crucial-do or die supporters for Suhr, that hes supposedly lost, arent the politicians hes supposedly kissed ass of over the years. Campos, Eric Mar, Avalos, and Jane Kim have backtracked and rescinded the support they gave Suhr last week. The rationale behind a decision supporting a very very small, very very vocal, impossibly stubborn minority is anyones guess. I think youre just on that side of the fence Redmond, you are writing for 48 hills now..lol. Whatever. We’ll see if your prediction holds up. It feels like you just wanted to pour a bit of gasoline on the fire while it was still burning with this one, bro. I’m betting, and hoping Suhr stays, like the silent majority of San Franciscans.

  132. So 48 Hills now supports limiting the voice and influence of public employee unions? Good to know!!!

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More than 200 briefly walk off the job and demand meeting with management; Giants brass ducks as strike looms.

50 years ago, San Bruno Mountain was almost cut in half

Remembering a successful community campaign to save the local environment—as climate challenges loom.

Screen Grabs: ‘Eyes of Tammy Faye’ blinks at real issues

Plus: Poignant sunset hippie idealism in 'Freeland,' Nic Cage's latest wild ride, and a St. Vincent hall of mirrors.

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New rules on search warrants moving forward with little public input

The public defender wasn't consulted. The DA hasn't been inolvolved. But the Police Commission wants a major policy change—now.

Why have DBI, Planning, and the cops gotten away with so much for so long?

Plus: $70 million for parking meters when the mayor says we can't afford to keep SIP hotels open to save lives. That's The Agenda for Sept. 13-19

COVID and wildfires are a double threat at state prisons

New outbreaks, and constant fire threats, have been largely ignored by the major news media.
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